Discipline: What Works?
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Just wondering how you have managed disciplining children with ADHD?? I have
found my colourful child to be harder than all my other 5 put together!!
I have just bought 1-2-3 Magic Effective Discipline for 2-12 by Phelan and
Schonour.
They are easy reading books and look like they will be really good. I just
need some new strategies to help me cope when it gets tough, which is at
least 3-4 times a day!!! And that's a good day!!
For your own coping stratigies. I use prayer. The power of prayerful
meditation has gotten me through many trials in my life. Even if I
don't have time for quiet prayer. I can do it on the run so to speak.
and it works.
As for discipline... well you have the best strategy I know: 1,2,3
Magic. It stops the circle of arguments. It stops the loop of whatever.
Even now if I say "ONE" they know to back of if there is any hope in this
life time to get what they are asking for.
That said I always state my thoughts my reasons etc. But you do it once
and give them time to comply, then count one...two. and if
by three they are not doing as requested or needed then you put in time
out. Older teens you would have to find a different solution
equlivent to a time out.
Anyway it worked for me in short order and if I am distracted they can
still get me in a loop but when I become aware it is a loop or circle I
break it by counting "ONE" I never need to say or do more; it is done.
when I started this it took less than a week or so to get to two.
with in a couple of months I was down to ONE. Done. and I did it
alone... hubby didn't agree... but now he sees it works so occasionally
he also Says one, two, etc. LOL
The main thing is to FOLLOW THROUGH and be consistent. It does and
will work.
Don't ask me why, but it works on other peoples kids, too. I have no
problem with other kids that others have problems with. I simply let them
know it is not done that way in my house or with me. School trips,
etc. They listen. They may not like it but once you have it down
you can apply it accross the board. You can always use a time out in a
school trip setting but you can make them walk with you and only you and if
young enough you can make them hold your hand. It doesn't take
long and they know they can't get away with things with you.
1-2-3 Magic is a great start. It teaches parents that calmness, being in
control, and setting boundaries are all so important.
One of the challenges for those of us with ADHD ourselves is keeping on top
of the children in the first place. At least it is for me. Sometimes I just
don't see the behaviors until they have been going on for awhile. Then the children
are out of control. I have to work very hard to stay on top of what is
going on with all of my children, even if I am busy around the house (or
working on the computer).
Here are some tips for when you need to correct your child:
- Touch the child gently, and say his name.
- Say, "Look at my eyes."
- Watch your body language and tone of voice; these children don't respond
well to harsh voice tones, and keep your facial expression as kind as
possible. Don't fold your arms across your chest. Use open body language.
You can even hug your child to yourself first, say, "I love you so much. I
need to talk to you about _____."
- State facts and ask for an explanation. Most of these kids have no idea
why they did anything, but it is good to ask them, "Can you tell me what YOU
did?"
- Ask them what they think about what they did.
- Give the consequence for the misbehavior, if appropriate.
- Make sure your child knows what the consequences are for common
misbehaviors.
- Do not assign a punishment when you are upset. Tell your child you need
to talk to Daddy about this, or pray about this and will let them know
tomorrow for big infractions (this is important for older children).
- Do use Scripture to teach, but do not hit the child over the head with a
Bible, rhetorically speaking, of course. Do not minister out of self-righteousness.
- Be sensitive.
- Do not yell, even if they yell. "A gentle answers turns away wrath."
Proverbs 15:1
The biggest revelation I have learned over the years is staying calm and not allowing anger to take over. These kids seem to push us to the edge every day. In the past, I have verbally and emotionally attacked my children in anger when they have done the same thing over and over and over, or they have done something new but just as thoughtless day after day after day when I am totally worn down. When I just get worn down like this, I would lose patience or the ability to keep myself under control (I never really lose this ability, just lack the character to keep myself under control when pushed this far). Sometimes I get so discouraged that I sort of give up, or just let things
go for a few days because I have no energy left.
These are all normal reactions to these high-maintenance children.
When your children seem to be the most out of control is when they need your
positive attention the most. Make cookies together, go shopping together
(with the child as the center of the trip, not a tag-along), go for a walk,
read a story together. Definitely talk to them about whatever they are
interested in.
This is the hardest part. We get so tired of dealing with them every day,
every moment of every day, and we don't have anything left over sometimes.
I understand.
Hope some of this helps. I am still learning so much after being a parent
for 27 years and definitely do not have all the answers.
Oh my................your letter moved me to tears!! Wow, I haven't had such
wise, warm, godly counsel like that in a LONG time!!! I will be printing out
and putting your kind words in my Bible. What you wrote is so true. I think
I have years of hurt, frustration, tiredness, bad habits etc that need
putting to rest. I am not an unforgiving person at all, quite the contrary,
but I think being an emotional person, I wear my heart on my sleeve
constantly, and therefore discipline in like manner. Flying into a rage
doesn't help, shouting and yelling doesn't help, yet at times I have left
things until that's how I respond. I know that when I have stopped and used
a quiet voice, it changes the atmosphere almost immediately. Actually when
you think about it, you cannot have arguements when you use a quiet soft
voice.
I am only into the first chapter of the 1-2-3 Magic book, and it is great.
My hubby is reading his Teacher edition at the same time and commented on
parents who yell and scream at there children are just having an adult
tantrum!! Eeek, I hid my head in shame. I need to unlearn my old ways, and
relearn some new godly ways.
My eldest son is in his 20's and my youngest 5. I have noticed that I have lost
patience and stamina over the years, but that is just no excuse at all.
I agree, prayer is always number 1. Either in quiet time or on the run.
We have never used anything like Magic 1-2-3 because we have always seen
parents misuse this type of system. They either don't follow through, or
follow through in such a negative manner that we fail to see how it works.
The parents usuallly wind up doing what they wanted the child to do, or the
child goes dashing off on the count of 3 and nothing gets done.
For us and our older children (which now has trickled down to the
younger--the youngest is 9) we ask "What fits the crime?" "Man don't work?
Man don't eat". Works great on kitchen/dog duty. For other things:
Abuse/don't put away video/tv/DVD--loose them. I am known to take the
DVD/video/CD and put it in "Mom's hiding spot" which always changes. It is
amazing how much they don't "miss it". When the children do miss it, which
I have seen go up to a week, they say "Mom, have you seen.....?" I reply
"Where did you last see it?" "Well, I last saw it ...." Then I reply "Well
if you put it where it belonged then that is where you will find it."
Usually they figure it out that they didn't put it back and now I
confiscated it so they'll ask when will I return it. That depends on how
serious the infraction.
Messy rooms: Hide the 30gal garbage bags when Mom
cleans! Only I now make them fill the bags and put the bags in a storage
spot. You see tears forming or hear them say under their breath something to
the order of "If I would have put it away I wouldn't be loosing it." How
they try to bargain too!! That one is the hardest discipline for me to
carry through with but it really works. Our rule for a clean bedroom: Since
I have problems with my feet, I have to be able to walk anywhere in their
room with the lights off and not step on something. They all have small
bedrooms so it basically means the path from the door to the bed and dresser
should be clutter free. Also, it should take no more the 5 mins to find
something in your room. This is the compromise I am learning to make (I
have some "messies" in my family and I am a "neatie")
1-2-3 Magic is published by Parent Magic. www.parentmagic.com
Don't be put off by the word magic. It's not about sorcery or anything like
that. They use the word to show it apparently works, like magic. Meaning you
see a BIg result!
I knew you prayed. Just thought a reminder that it can be your best
defense for stress and coping, and I use mine all the time too. So
I understand.
Consistency seems to be the key with these kids. I am not the kind of
person who does exactly the same thing each day at the same time. Far
from it. Consistancy is also making sure you follow through on things so
they don't learn they can get away with it if they put you off long
enough.
Or can work around you. 1,2, 3 magic is great for that. It stops
the cycle and it is soooo easy to implement that you can follow through
for a short time and then they get it. You don't have to use
everything in the book. Take what you feel you can make work for you
and use it. Pare it down to what works for you. Just make sure you
follow through and remember to use it.
My kids today know if they argue with me or pester to get something and I
say One, if they continue it won't happen in this life. Because when they
were little if they pestered and I said no and it continued and I got
to three, it was done and I would not change my mind ever and I let them
know it. After a while you don't have to carry it out; they know to stop.
So I can go back to being a bit more relaxed. They already know. So cool. Just don't let them
know I've relaxed. LOL They may use it against me. LOL
Besides it helps them to make good decissions for themselves which
ultimately is what we want them to do.
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